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You have covered the full gamit of everything with this one Stegiel.

Does anyone know why *the world* agreed to the AD BC time counting system.

Anyhows you are probably right, let's start counting from 2019.

What's significant about that number? 1666 was significant.

Someone will know all this stuff. It's ok I know whom to ask and then get back to you.

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Richard Seager's avatar

From what I remember it was 6 or 700 years after 1 AD before AD became a thing.

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Also Monks of the late middle ages had an impact as well. I doubt that we're 2023 years after Jesus (who anyway is just Apollo reinterpreted) right now.

Charlemagne is the key. His church in Aachen dates to the 13th C not the 8th.

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Stegiel's avatar

Exact chronology and rectification of timelines adopted by the peoples of the world (but not voted on, imposed, like a religious faith, you must obey tick tock) was important to Europeans with tremendous anxiety. Scaliger’s De Emendatione Temporum – The Amendment of Time

Scaliger’s most important works are his edition of the Astronomica of the Roman poet and astrologer Manilius (1579), and his De emendatione temporum (1583), in which he revolutionized perceived ideas of ancient chronology to show that ancient history is not confined to that of the Greeks and Romans, but also comprises that of the Persians, the Babylonians and the Egyptians, hitherto neglected, and that of the Jews, hitherto treated as a thing apart. Furthermore, he showed that the historical narratives and fragments of each of these, and their several systems of chronology, must be critically compared. It was this innovation that distinguished Scaliger from contemporary scholars. Neither they nor those who immediately followed seem to have appreciated his innovation. Instead, they valued his emendatory criticism and his skill in Greek. His commentary on Manilius is really a treatise on ancient astronomy, and it forms an introduction to De emendatione temporum. In this work Scaliger investigates ancient systems of determining epochs, calendars and computations of time. Applying the work of Nicolaus Copernicus and other modern scientists, he reveals the principles behind these systems. Moreover, the publication of De Emendatione Temporum placed him at the head of all the living representatives of ancient learning. http://scihi.org/scaliger-chronology/

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I am reading a book on Celts of the 7th C BCE until maybe 4-500 CE (accepting current chronology). It is rather illuminating consider the Romans & Greeks considered anything not Roman or Greek and north of them as being nomads on horses.

The Celts, by archeology rather than written sources of the above, had city states, art and ironworking in the 6th C BCE.

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Stegiel's avatar

http://socialismtoday.org/archive/41/celts41.html

Lately, post-Covid, though of course along road to there, I came to grasp how much myth is not only not true but not even mistaken. Creative animal man is animal man, not God Man. Moloch fairly presents as Emblem of animal man.

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The author of the book I read covered that 18th/19th Century misunderstanding of origins and invasions. The question of whether they were called Celt was also covered and for lack of better word that's what we call them (somewhat like the Byzantine Romans never called themselves Byzantine Romans maybe). The idea that the Celts spread from central Europe to the west is rejected in fact the West is considered an origin for them (not 'the') not just the British Isles but also Portugal. Genetically (the knowledge here has improved in bounds over last 20 years) and culturally there are links far flung, say between modern day Turkey, Germany & Britain) and quite often people died far from where they were bought up (this can be done by analysis of bones) and art indicates that there was quite a cultural exchange going on of communities not exactly close to each other.

For sure the writer might be biased. But you could say the same thing of every Greek & Roman writer still extant. The ones that didn't stick to the story were erased.

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