The sequencing anecdote reminds me of the story of Pithecanthropus Erectus ("Jave Ape-Man"), and we have all learned how accurate that turned out to be.
Fraud is not fraud even when it is. In this case the objective is a fake virus to frighten the world into obedience. Remarkably when big names opposed to Vaccines are challenged on virus isolation they double down on the fake virus. Kirsch, Malone, Berenson, to name but three. This bridges to the entire "science" of virology. Covid judo technique may be bringing an entire area of pseudo-science down. If not, dealing it a heavy blow. The possibility also is present of bringing down the actually existing Super Capitalist order. I am a reader so I enjoy thinking of a certain monarch of Lydia in this Covid context. Now of course scholars assure us this is fable but fiction and fact mirror one another to create true myth. Croesus' uneasy relations with the Ionians obscures the larger fact that he was the last bastion of the Ionian cities against the increasing Persian power in Anatolia. He began preparing a campaign against Cyrus the Great of Persia.
Before setting out, he turned to the Delphic oracle and the oracle of Amphiaraus to inquire whether he should pursue this campaign and whether he should also seek an alliance. The oracles answered, with typical ambiguity, that if Croesus attacked the Persians, he would destroy a great empire (ἢν στρατεύηται ἐπὶ Πέρσας, μεγάλην ἀρχὴν μιν καταλύσειν[28]) – this would become one of the most famous oracular statements from Delphi.
The oracles also advised Croesus to find out which Greek state was most powerful and to ally himself with it.[29] Croesus, now feeling secure, formed an alliance with Sparta[30] in addition to those he had with Amasis II of Egypt and Nabonidus of Babylonia,[31] and launched his campaign against the Persian Empire in 547 BC. (The scholar Evans in 1978 examines the conflicting dates implied in Herodotus.[6]) Croesus was intercepted near the Halys River in central Anatolia and an inconclusive battle was fought at Pteria. It was the usual practice in those days for the armies to disband for winter and Croesus did so accordingly. Cyrus did not, however, and he attacked and defeated Croesus in Thymbria and later in Sardis, eventually capturing him. It became clear that the powerful empire destroyed by the war was Croesus's own.
Hi Stegiel. Thanks for the sub. It was trying to get my head around all this confusion with regard to virus isolation and after seeing the inital Cowan video last year that inspired "It was the germs what done it". I am struggling with who to believe, I do not believe that all these scientists and doctors that are on the side of good (our side, obviously), are actors with an intent to subvert the cause (not that you are suggesting this). I wish I had a greater understanding of virology myself to try and disect this argument. I suppose what we are both getting at, and Cowan, is that, if there is a presentation of some new symptoms causing a severe resparatory illness, albeit in a very select demographic, then what could be causing this, if it is not a transmissable virus. Then we end up down the EMR/5g path, which, of course, is the path that must not be taken.
Rob Dubya first of all I believe we are overly trusting of all authorities. My distrust arose I think with my childhood. I will sometime go into this idea. I am still pondering how and why and at this moment at 65 can only say luck for sure. I personally think EMR/5G does impact human health.
Now to the ground of your question, before going into definition changes, mostly as an aside, TCM and Ayurveda and Folk Medicine healed for years without knowledge of viral infections. So clearly the triumph of the West was also an ideological hegemony of medicine.
CDC also recategorized flu as Covid. And fiscal incentives exist to say death is Covid even with multiple co-morbidities.
Now definition changes. The information is from my notes. Multiple sources. My bad for not documenting all of them.
In recent years, and especially after the start of the COVID pandemic in 2020, major health organizations across the world have changed several definitions of medical terms, which in turn have a significant impact on everyday life. In fact, were it not for the World Health Organization changing its definition of “pandemic” back in 2009, we wouldn’t even be in this mess.
Like the swine flu before it, SARS-CoV-2 would not have qualified as a pandemic were it not for the WHO erasing a few key words from the definition. Pre-2009, the official definition of a pandemic was:
“… when a new influenza virus appears against which the human population has no immunity, resulting in several, simultaneous epidemics worldwide with enormous numbers of deaths and illness.”
Then, in 2009, the WHO removed the severity and high mortality criteria (“enormous numbers of deaths and illness”), leaving the definition of a pandemic as “a worldwide epidemic of a disease.”
By removing the restrictive criteria of severe illness causing high morbidity and leaving geographically widespread infection as the only criteria for a pandemic, the WHO has the ability to declare a pandemic any time there’s more cases of a given disease than normal.
Having this ability is of crucial importance, seeing how the WHO has played a central role in the technocratic takeover we’re now facing. The WHO has emergency powers over its 194 member countries, so when the WHO declares an international public health incident, all member states are required to follow along “in lock step” with the WHO’s directives.
Were it not for the WHO, nations would respond to any given outbreak in any number of ways. Trying to influence them to respond in ways that benefit the technocracy would be like herding cats. Without lockstep coordination between all the world’s nations, using a biosafety narrative to control people and shift wealth distribution on a global scale simply would not be feasible.
But there’s also an even greater and more long-lasting implication for society. By redefining what certain words and terms mean, the rising biosecurity state is attempting to change your perception of what’s true and what is false. In the process, they’re perverting science into something ruled by faith, speculation and biased opinion. The dangers of that are incalculable.
What Is a ‘Vaccine’?
In September 2021, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention shocked medical experts by changing the definition of a vaccine from “a product that produces immunity therefore protecting the body from the disease,”4 to “a preparation that is used to stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases.”5
The key change is that a “vaccine” no longer produces immunity, so it no longer protects you against the disease. It only stimulates an immune response against a given disease. This definition was obviously contrived to describe the limited function of the COVID-19 gene therapy injections, which do not make you immune and can’t prevent you from getting or spreading the infection.
By any definition of a vaccine in use before 2021, the COVID shot is not a vaccine. At best, the shot will reduce your symptoms. This also means they cannot, ever, produce herd immunity. This despite the redefinition of herd immunity, from being something produced as a result of natural infection, to something resulting from mass-vaccination.
Definition of Herd Immunity No Longer Has Scientific Basis
The WHO changed their definition of herd immunity in October 2020, likely in anticipation of the global mass vaccination campaign. To reiterate, in the past, herd immunity meant when enough people had acquired immunity to an infectious disease, such that the disease could no longer spread widely in the community.
Before science introduced vaccinations, herd immunity was achieved by exposure to and recovery from normal exposures to an infectious disease. Courtesy of the Internet Archive’s Wayback Machine, before October 2020, the WHO’s definition of herd immunity included both vaccine immunity and “immunity developed through previous infection.”
However, in October 2020, the updated definition dropped natural immunity altogether. The current definition now reads as follows:7
“‘Herd immunity’, also known as ‘population immunity’, is a concept used for vaccination, in which a population can be protected from a certain virus if a threshold of vaccination is reached.”
Adding insult to injury, they also specify that “Herd immunity is achieved by protecting people from a virus, not by exposing them to it.” This totally ignores the billions of people throughout history who have been infected naturally with measles, mumps, chicken pox and other infectious diseases, and who now have lifelong immunity to those diseases thanks to their natural infection, as opposed to vaccines that wane and need regular boosters.
Rappaport citing Cowan: The researchers claim they decided which is the real genome of SARS-CoV-2 by ‘consensus,’ sort of like a vote. Again, different computer programs will come up with different versions of the imaginary ‘unicorn,’ so they come together as a group and decide which is the real imaginary unicorn.”
As I’ve been stating, the “discovery” of the “new virus” was actually the foisting of a PRE-DETERMINED STORY ABOUT A VIRUS. Nothing real or believable about it.
But once the official pattern is laid down, others follow it dutifully.
Dr. Cowan uncovers more insanity in the CDC journal article. Using the ASSUMED new virus, in an UN-ISOLATED STATE, the researchers try to prove it is harmful by injecting it on to several different types of cells in the lab:
Cowan: “The real blockbuster finding in this study comes later, a finding so shocking that I had to read it many times before I could believe what I was reading. Let me quote the passage intact:”
“’Therefore, we examined the capacity of SARS-CoV-2 to infect and replicate in several common primate and human cell lines, including human adenocarcinoma cells (A549), human liver cells (HUH 7.0), and human embryonic kidney cells (HEK-293T). In addition to Vero E6 and Vero CCL81 cells [monkey cells]. … Each cell line was inoculated at high multiplicity of infection and examined 24h post-infection. No CPE was observed in any of the cell lines except in Vero [monkey] cells, which grew to greater than 10 to the 7th power at 24 h post-infection. In contrast, HUH 7.0 and 293T showed only modest viral replication, and A549 cells [human cells] were incompatible with SARS CoV-2 infection’.”
“What does this language actually mean, and why is it the most shocking statement of all from the virology community? When virologists attempt to prove infection, they have three possible ‘hosts’ or models on which they can test…”
“The third method virologists use to prove infection and pathogenicity — the method they most rely on — is inoculation of solutions they say contain the virus onto a variety of tissue cultures. As I have pointed out many times, such inoculation has never been shown to kill (lyse) the tissue, unless the tissue is first starved and poisoned.”
“The shocking thing about the above [CDC journal] quote is that using their own methods, the virologists found that solutions containing SARS-CoV-2 — even in high amounts — were NOT, I repeat NOT, infective to any of the three human tissue cultures they tested. In plain English, this means they proved, on their terms, that this ‘new coronavirus’ is not infectious to human beings. It is ONLY infective to monkey kidney cells, and only then when you add two potent drugs (gentamicin and amphotericin), known to be toxic to kidneys, to the mix.”
“My friends, read this again and again. These virologists, published by the CDC, performed a clear proof, on their terms, showing that the SARS-CoV- 2 virus is harmless to human beings. That is the only possible conclusion, but, unfortunately, this result is not even mentioned in their conclusion. They simply say they can provide virus stocks cultured only on monkey Vero cells, thanks for coming.”
So first…use a process of genetic sequencing that involves concocting, out of an arbitrary computer program…
The existence and structure of the “new virus”…
And then, taking a soup that the researchers claim contains the virus, in an un-isolated state, inject the soup into several types of cells in the lab…
And discover the prime target—human cells—are not infected by the imaginary virus.
Conclusion can only be as Carlo Salzini who is Guest Scholar at the Messerli Research Institute of the University of Vienna, Austria argues: The way out from our contemporary predicament consists, for Agamben, in nothing less than the messianic overcoming of Western politics as we know it.
The trusting of authorities point you make is absolutely correct and frankly, unbelievable. I was blindsided by the willingness of the masses to just not question anything, but once you understand the methods they use to condition us 24/7/365 through all means possible you can understand, even if it doesn't work on the likes of me and you.
Now, that's about the best reply to any comment, thank you. While I have written myself about some of the points you make regarding pandemic and vaccine definitions, what you laid down regarding SARS C2 lack of ability to infect was mind blowing. Thanks Stegiel
The sequencing anecdote reminds me of the story of Pithecanthropus Erectus ("Jave Ape-Man"), and we have all learned how accurate that turned out to be.
Fraud is not fraud even when it is. In this case the objective is a fake virus to frighten the world into obedience. Remarkably when big names opposed to Vaccines are challenged on virus isolation they double down on the fake virus. Kirsch, Malone, Berenson, to name but three. This bridges to the entire "science" of virology. Covid judo technique may be bringing an entire area of pseudo-science down. If not, dealing it a heavy blow. The possibility also is present of bringing down the actually existing Super Capitalist order. I am a reader so I enjoy thinking of a certain monarch of Lydia in this Covid context. Now of course scholars assure us this is fable but fiction and fact mirror one another to create true myth. Croesus' uneasy relations with the Ionians obscures the larger fact that he was the last bastion of the Ionian cities against the increasing Persian power in Anatolia. He began preparing a campaign against Cyrus the Great of Persia.
Before setting out, he turned to the Delphic oracle and the oracle of Amphiaraus to inquire whether he should pursue this campaign and whether he should also seek an alliance. The oracles answered, with typical ambiguity, that if Croesus attacked the Persians, he would destroy a great empire (ἢν στρατεύηται ἐπὶ Πέρσας, μεγάλην ἀρχὴν μιν καταλύσειν[28]) – this would become one of the most famous oracular statements from Delphi.
The oracles also advised Croesus to find out which Greek state was most powerful and to ally himself with it.[29] Croesus, now feeling secure, formed an alliance with Sparta[30] in addition to those he had with Amasis II of Egypt and Nabonidus of Babylonia,[31] and launched his campaign against the Persian Empire in 547 BC. (The scholar Evans in 1978 examines the conflicting dates implied in Herodotus.[6]) Croesus was intercepted near the Halys River in central Anatolia and an inconclusive battle was fought at Pteria. It was the usual practice in those days for the armies to disband for winter and Croesus did so accordingly. Cyrus did not, however, and he attacked and defeated Croesus in Thymbria and later in Sardis, eventually capturing him. It became clear that the powerful empire destroyed by the war was Croesus's own.
Hi Stegiel. Thanks for the sub. It was trying to get my head around all this confusion with regard to virus isolation and after seeing the inital Cowan video last year that inspired "It was the germs what done it". I am struggling with who to believe, I do not believe that all these scientists and doctors that are on the side of good (our side, obviously), are actors with an intent to subvert the cause (not that you are suggesting this). I wish I had a greater understanding of virology myself to try and disect this argument. I suppose what we are both getting at, and Cowan, is that, if there is a presentation of some new symptoms causing a severe resparatory illness, albeit in a very select demographic, then what could be causing this, if it is not a transmissable virus. Then we end up down the EMR/5g path, which, of course, is the path that must not be taken.
Rob Dubya first of all I believe we are overly trusting of all authorities. My distrust arose I think with my childhood. I will sometime go into this idea. I am still pondering how and why and at this moment at 65 can only say luck for sure. I personally think EMR/5G does impact human health.
Now to the ground of your question, before going into definition changes, mostly as an aside, TCM and Ayurveda and Folk Medicine healed for years without knowledge of viral infections. So clearly the triumph of the West was also an ideological hegemony of medicine.
CDC also recategorized flu as Covid. And fiscal incentives exist to say death is Covid even with multiple co-morbidities.
Now definition changes. The information is from my notes. Multiple sources. My bad for not documenting all of them.
In recent years, and especially after the start of the COVID pandemic in 2020, major health organizations across the world have changed several definitions of medical terms, which in turn have a significant impact on everyday life. In fact, were it not for the World Health Organization changing its definition of “pandemic” back in 2009, we wouldn’t even be in this mess.
Like the swine flu before it, SARS-CoV-2 would not have qualified as a pandemic were it not for the WHO erasing a few key words from the definition. Pre-2009, the official definition of a pandemic was:
“… when a new influenza virus appears against which the human population has no immunity, resulting in several, simultaneous epidemics worldwide with enormous numbers of deaths and illness.”
Then, in 2009, the WHO removed the severity and high mortality criteria (“enormous numbers of deaths and illness”), leaving the definition of a pandemic as “a worldwide epidemic of a disease.”
By removing the restrictive criteria of severe illness causing high morbidity and leaving geographically widespread infection as the only criteria for a pandemic, the WHO has the ability to declare a pandemic any time there’s more cases of a given disease than normal.
Having this ability is of crucial importance, seeing how the WHO has played a central role in the technocratic takeover we’re now facing. The WHO has emergency powers over its 194 member countries, so when the WHO declares an international public health incident, all member states are required to follow along “in lock step” with the WHO’s directives.
Were it not for the WHO, nations would respond to any given outbreak in any number of ways. Trying to influence them to respond in ways that benefit the technocracy would be like herding cats. Without lockstep coordination between all the world’s nations, using a biosafety narrative to control people and shift wealth distribution on a global scale simply would not be feasible.
But there’s also an even greater and more long-lasting implication for society. By redefining what certain words and terms mean, the rising biosecurity state is attempting to change your perception of what’s true and what is false. In the process, they’re perverting science into something ruled by faith, speculation and biased opinion. The dangers of that are incalculable.
What Is a ‘Vaccine’?
In September 2021, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention shocked medical experts by changing the definition of a vaccine from “a product that produces immunity therefore protecting the body from the disease,”4 to “a preparation that is used to stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases.”5
The key change is that a “vaccine” no longer produces immunity, so it no longer protects you against the disease. It only stimulates an immune response against a given disease. This definition was obviously contrived to describe the limited function of the COVID-19 gene therapy injections, which do not make you immune and can’t prevent you from getting or spreading the infection.
By any definition of a vaccine in use before 2021, the COVID shot is not a vaccine. At best, the shot will reduce your symptoms. This also means they cannot, ever, produce herd immunity. This despite the redefinition of herd immunity, from being something produced as a result of natural infection, to something resulting from mass-vaccination.
Definition of Herd Immunity No Longer Has Scientific Basis
The WHO changed their definition of herd immunity in October 2020, likely in anticipation of the global mass vaccination campaign. To reiterate, in the past, herd immunity meant when enough people had acquired immunity to an infectious disease, such that the disease could no longer spread widely in the community.
Before science introduced vaccinations, herd immunity was achieved by exposure to and recovery from normal exposures to an infectious disease. Courtesy of the Internet Archive’s Wayback Machine, before October 2020, the WHO’s definition of herd immunity included both vaccine immunity and “immunity developed through previous infection.”
However, in October 2020, the updated definition dropped natural immunity altogether. The current definition now reads as follows:7
“‘Herd immunity’, also known as ‘population immunity’, is a concept used for vaccination, in which a population can be protected from a certain virus if a threshold of vaccination is reached.”
Adding insult to injury, they also specify that “Herd immunity is achieved by protecting people from a virus, not by exposing them to it.” This totally ignores the billions of people throughout history who have been infected naturally with measles, mumps, chicken pox and other infectious diseases, and who now have lifelong immunity to those diseases thanks to their natural infection, as opposed to vaccines that wane and need regular boosters.
Rappaport citing Cowan: The researchers claim they decided which is the real genome of SARS-CoV-2 by ‘consensus,’ sort of like a vote. Again, different computer programs will come up with different versions of the imaginary ‘unicorn,’ so they come together as a group and decide which is the real imaginary unicorn.”
As I’ve been stating, the “discovery” of the “new virus” was actually the foisting of a PRE-DETERMINED STORY ABOUT A VIRUS. Nothing real or believable about it.
But once the official pattern is laid down, others follow it dutifully.
Dr. Cowan uncovers more insanity in the CDC journal article. Using the ASSUMED new virus, in an UN-ISOLATED STATE, the researchers try to prove it is harmful by injecting it on to several different types of cells in the lab:
Cowan: “The real blockbuster finding in this study comes later, a finding so shocking that I had to read it many times before I could believe what I was reading. Let me quote the passage intact:”
“’Therefore, we examined the capacity of SARS-CoV-2 to infect and replicate in several common primate and human cell lines, including human adenocarcinoma cells (A549), human liver cells (HUH 7.0), and human embryonic kidney cells (HEK-293T). In addition to Vero E6 and Vero CCL81 cells [monkey cells]. … Each cell line was inoculated at high multiplicity of infection and examined 24h post-infection. No CPE was observed in any of the cell lines except in Vero [monkey] cells, which grew to greater than 10 to the 7th power at 24 h post-infection. In contrast, HUH 7.0 and 293T showed only modest viral replication, and A549 cells [human cells] were incompatible with SARS CoV-2 infection’.”
“What does this language actually mean, and why is it the most shocking statement of all from the virology community? When virologists attempt to prove infection, they have three possible ‘hosts’ or models on which they can test…”
“The third method virologists use to prove infection and pathogenicity — the method they most rely on — is inoculation of solutions they say contain the virus onto a variety of tissue cultures. As I have pointed out many times, such inoculation has never been shown to kill (lyse) the tissue, unless the tissue is first starved and poisoned.”
“The shocking thing about the above [CDC journal] quote is that using their own methods, the virologists found that solutions containing SARS-CoV-2 — even in high amounts — were NOT, I repeat NOT, infective to any of the three human tissue cultures they tested. In plain English, this means they proved, on their terms, that this ‘new coronavirus’ is not infectious to human beings. It is ONLY infective to monkey kidney cells, and only then when you add two potent drugs (gentamicin and amphotericin), known to be toxic to kidneys, to the mix.”
“My friends, read this again and again. These virologists, published by the CDC, performed a clear proof, on their terms, showing that the SARS-CoV- 2 virus is harmless to human beings. That is the only possible conclusion, but, unfortunately, this result is not even mentioned in their conclusion. They simply say they can provide virus stocks cultured only on monkey Vero cells, thanks for coming.”
So first…use a process of genetic sequencing that involves concocting, out of an arbitrary computer program…
The existence and structure of the “new virus”…
And then, taking a soup that the researchers claim contains the virus, in an un-isolated state, inject the soup into several types of cells in the lab…
And discover the prime target—human cells—are not infected by the imaginary virus.
Conclusion can only be as Carlo Salzini who is Guest Scholar at the Messerli Research Institute of the University of Vienna, Austria argues: The way out from our contemporary predicament consists, for Agamben, in nothing less than the messianic overcoming of Western politics as we know it.
The trusting of authorities point you make is absolutely correct and frankly, unbelievable. I was blindsided by the willingness of the masses to just not question anything, but once you understand the methods they use to condition us 24/7/365 through all means possible you can understand, even if it doesn't work on the likes of me and you.
Now, that's about the best reply to any comment, thank you. While I have written myself about some of the points you make regarding pandemic and vaccine definitions, what you laid down regarding SARS C2 lack of ability to infect was mind blowing. Thanks Stegiel