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Dr.Don Hall's avatar

What we are is not to be judged by our lack but by our actions, our intent and our heart. Our minds must sift Truth from Reason and Perception. Just as Tolstoy pointed out “History would be a wonderful thing (tool) if it were only (accurate) true.” The same applies to sifting Truth from fabrications, cunning deceit, manipulation and lies. Minds set upon seas of question to live Truth are buffeted by the essence of opposition and there be reason for that, Battle for control of Free Will. Therefore Ten Commandments are a hard but strong force against an untethered mind or unsure heart. We are either Partners and Capable of developing or harboring God like properties or lost in our choices and buffeted existence. I choose to Try to be my best Self. In my opinion the Personal Exercise of Capability is the reason we exist. To build our understanding of our capabilities, allows us to acknowledge and sustain Free Will.

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Ernie Boxall's avatar

Literally, gases created by the Big Bang cooled and through thermal changes and forces of gravity created stars (just as they do now in galaxies in the known universe) and planets. A bit more likely than a bloke saying "abracadabra" POOF.

Sentient beings? Evolution and visits from planetary beings.

Who marked off the dimensions? I believe it could have been the same people who built civilizations pre the floods around the Earth created by polar shifts.

Who laid it's cornerstones. See above.

The Morning Star and Angels? See above. But just as likely to have been Odin, Zeus, or one of the other gods (travellers)

Certainly wasn't something that started a task billions of billions of billions of years ago. Then waited till 13 billion years ago the do something and was then so bloody lazy that it waited billions of years to do something else.

And what did it do then?

It set about systematic genocide.

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Stegiel's avatar

And these “beings” are they self made from atoms? We myth make, we do not know. A cosmology myth is a symbolic narrative of how the world began and how people first came to inhabit it. It is a type of cosmogony, which is a theory or story of the origin and development of the universe. Cosmology myths are often religious in nature and explain the origin, history, and evolution of the cosmos or universe based on the religious beliefs of a specific tradition.

https://phys.org/news/2019-11-cosmologist-lonely-big-theory.html

https://www.metaresearch.org/cosmology/cosmology2/the-top-30-problems-with-the-big-bang

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Ernie Boxall's avatar

You might be right after all. These beings were made from the earth your god bloke created somewhere a billion, billion, billion light years away and then sat around doing nothing until 13 billion years ago he got off his ass and went WHOOMP…an Earth. WHOOMP a garden…needs a gardener who's as dumb as a box of rocks. WHOOMP there he is. Wait 40 years and WHOOMP give this dumb asshole something to stop him being happy. I'll pinch one of his ribs but not enough to give him a dick…can't have that cam we. WHOOMP. The thick gardner wakes up and finds himself with only half the mattress suddenly.

Yes…you may be right…the truth was staring at me all the time.🤣🤣🤣

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Stegiel's avatar

Ernie your bias is clear. Only myth for you is 19th century rationalism. Pre-Quantum physics,and truthfully built on very weak foundations. The Universe is ancient. Spirit older still. Simply because you are a featherless biped rooted in a false dominant psychology of untruth is not a reason for contempt. Even as we today know more than the 19th century scientists, more than 20th century, we need open minds. Look up fields and morphogenic ones. See Michael Levin’s youtubes from Tuft University on biology. Or Rupert Sheldrake. We are more than matter.

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Ernie Boxall's avatar

I can tell you where truth doesn't live.It sure as hell isn't in a bible. There is one Truth. Just one. It's in the Big Bang that created this universe, 13 billion years ago from the Big Bang billions of years before that created the universe beyond ours. And the Big Bang that will create the next in a few billion years. There was an explosion of gases... Now I grant that those gasses might have been your God farting but I doubt it.

So, while there is only One Truth, like Yin and Yang the only truth that matters to me is mine.

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Stegiel's avatar

Ernie you are very literal minded. In any case how is it random molocules manifested sentience? Then the idea in Job: Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation?

Tell me, if you understand.

5 Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know!

Who stretched a measuring line across it?

6 On what were its footings set,

or who laid its cornerstone—

7 while the morning stars sang together

and all the angels[a] shouted for joy?

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Ernie Boxall's avatar

So, there was nothing and then this God did what? And he did it in seven days. Apparently

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Stegiel's avatar

A Belgian priest invented the Big Bang.

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Ernie Boxall's avatar

There you go. He was talking about this bloke God farting.What about the previous Big Bangs? Did this God have a belly button?

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Stegiel's avatar

Prove it since a Belgian priest invented it. Eternity is what is. Myth is pointing the finger at the moon. The Bible has much wisdom read right. However it is a human document.

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Ernie Boxall's avatar

A Belgiun priest invented eternity? That proves it's a lie Belgium is where the lying EU bar stewards crawl under a rock.

The bible? Certainly is a good book if you want to read about genocide, fornication and tyrannical rule. And that's in the parts that were acceptable to the Roman editors.

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Ernie Boxall's avatar

Christianity is a religion based wholly on a lie. That's why it's impossible to be a good Christian. To be a good Christian means you're a brilliant liar.

To be a good Christian means you're a weak human being wondering through a landscape of false trails and dead ends.

To be a Christian means a weekly visit to a huge status symbol of a building to sit with some of the communities biggest rogues is all you need for forgiveness... Apparently.

To be a Christian means that you turn a blind eyes on some of the world's most evil actors because they're murdering other religions.

To be a Christian means you follow the story of the world's worst genocidal maniac.

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Stegiel's avatar

But soft Ernie, tell me where exactly in this world of illusion is there truth? Is it math, 2+2 is always 4? Haldane has it the universe is queerer than we can imagine. You know as I how history is invented, fabricated, sifted by cunning, and worse - as Tolstoy says, “History would be a wonderful thing if only it were true.” Now walks on our stage true myth. Why? The Jews. Later Constantine. God Man Jesus of Nazareth was not a bastard son of a Roman soldier. He was a Jew.

Judaism has not found it possible to have a Messiah. Even if a Jew.

Chirst is not the God of orgies Dionysus. And antiquity - pre-Christ-had man gods and god men and slavish subjects of priests. Overall sifted over 2000 years Christianity as idea is superior by arguing for human freedom as the foundation of all. Love is not a command. Freedom to go your personal path remains. Paternalistic faith control is all too human mind control and this is not love.

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Ernie Boxall's avatar

When I translate this bullshit into English I'll come back

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