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Used - Good: Yale University Press, 2009. First Edition. Hardcover. Good. Pages can have notes/highlighting. Spine may show signs of wear. ~ ThriftBooks: Read More, Spend Less.Dust jacket in good condition. First edition, first printing. Shelf and handling wear to cover and binding, with general signs of previous use. Moderate wear to the dust jacket with some creasing and chipping. Light bowing to the boards. Tight binding. Clean interior pages. Secure packaging for safe delivery.Dust...
More than happy. I am a book buyer and book hunter and in my poverty I downloaded more titles than I can read across several platforms. At a point shortly I move the books to the Icloud - maybe. There have been some stories online of Google Drive say deciding a text is not ok. I do at a minimum have to have a good idea of what I have downloaded. I did that after Judith passed with my boxes of books in the closet. Pulled 'em out. Gazed on titles and some now on the shelf others away to the thrift store. I estimate three more boxes from the shelves that refuse to be purchased by buyers on Pango also can go.
William James -On HUman Immortality. By the way a significant influence on McGilchrist.
Human Immortality: Two Supposed Objections to the Doctrine
Every memory and affection of one’s present life is to be preserved, and one shall never in sæcula sæculorum cease to be able to say to himself: “I am the same personal being who in old times upon the earth had those experiences.”
Preface
James answers his critics who claim his thoughts are a pantheistic idea of immortality, not the Christian idea (survival in strictly personal form). He answers that one may conceive the mental world behind the veil in as individualistic a form as one pleases, without any detriment to the general scheme by which the brain is represented as a transmissive organ.
Yes stepping aside from a moral norm, listening to McGhilchrist I see (frame) the trashing of the planet is Left Hemisphere dominance. Psychopathology. Humans are victims from one view, and bacchants from another. Short term gratification is need to get high, not need to reflect. Debauchery is immediate and decadence long term. I posted on Ray's site, slightly facetiously but truthfully, that the cure, the only cure to a world far more dangerous and toxic than we really need to know, is not very costly. I submitted Kazantzakis is the cure, a change of mind is fundamentally the only non toxic solution that is free.
The Saviors of God: Spiritual Exercises, I would like to consider further his idea of hope, which I first encountered in this passage:
We all ascend together, swept up by a mysterious and invisible urge. Where are we going? No one knows. Don’t ask, mount higher! Perhaps we are going nowhere, perhaps there is no one to pay us the rewarding wages of our lives. So much the better! For thus may we conquer the last, the greatest of all temptations—that of Hope.
I remember being devastated the first time I read those lines so many years ago. I had rejected my religious upbringing as a youth, and never regretted my decision, but why couldn’t I still hope that life had meaning, that things matter, that there is ultimate justice? Why was Kazantzakis taking away these hopes?
After all, I had comforted distraught students over the years saying that, although we don’t know that life has meaning, we can still hope that it does. Often these students were distressed by the meaninglessness and absurdity they encountered in existential thinkers like Sartre and Camus, or by the erosion of their religious beliefs after classes in the philosophy of religion. Was I wrong to comfort them with vague hopes?
Kazantzakis thinks rejecting hope is so important that in, The Saviors of God: Spiritual Exercises, it is one of the three duties to be fulfilled in preparation for the spiritual life. The first duty is to bravely accept our cognitive limitations, and the second duty is to accept the heart’s anguish at being unable to find meaning in life. This leads to the third duty:
The moment is ripe: leave the heart and the mind behind you, go forward, take the third step. Free yourself from the simple complacency of the mind that thinks to put all things in order and hopes to subdue phenomena. Free yourself from the terror of the heart that seeks and hopes to find the essence of things. Conquer the last, the greatest temptation of all: Hope. This is the third duty.
Moreover, his epitaph, carved on his tombstone in Greek reads: “I hope for nothing. I fear nothing. I am free.”
Unless they have expertise. Then one encounters the guide. Zarathusra say, though for McGilchrist I think a mash up of William James and Heideger served as a foundational springboard.
I too enjoy McGilchrist, a great deal really. I have begun the Master and the Emmissary. I am fond of McGilchrist because he is a neuropsychologist and a philsopher who studied English at Oxford and at age 28 after a 7 year Fellowship from Oxford decided to study medicine and neuropsychology. And as he says 12 years after his first book, no one in his field disagrees with his science. Nor do I. (LOL)
I have not much looked into it but the idea seems to be that society is working heavily on the left brain and not seeing the big picture and the consequences of being a small narrow thinker.
I am also led to consider the growing number of autistics, and I don't know but is lack of empathy often a characteristic.
And then the question of empathy in society at large. Wokeism feigns empathy, and here in NZ we had an actress PM who was (in some people's eyes) good at doing empathy.
Since the Pandemic I have put a lot of thought into the English diaspora. And even more into England. Feigning empathy might really be since the days of Shakespeare the way of being. This was creased in to the population by the hot irons of history. In the days of the Bard actors ran the risk of being vagrants. Vagrants-homeless, non-employed, non-residents, could be whipped with lead tipped whips from parish to parish. (Another reason to think the Bard to be a collective of Propagandists for the Queen.)
Not looking left or right but straight ahead eyes on the prize the straight line cutting across the countryside permitted a peculiar Authoritarianism to root itself and become a pestiential weed. Reading the Martiniquean poet/philospher Aimee Cesaire in his book "Discourse on Colonialism" for maybe the fourth time in 2023 I really grasp how this "civilizing" road destroys more than it bridges. Truly this feigning of compassion must end or we all do,.
I have a well off, retired early, friend who has a *Dutch uncle* character, wanting to help guide and teach practical skills to young *foster* children.
I don't want to be the one to tell him of the risks of someone accusing him of something *inappropriate*.
But this is what the actual empathetic are likely to get.
Of course. After Freud guilty until pentient and even then such a loathsome pervert a cure requires 3 $500 sessions for 14 quarters paid by insurance with a quite modest co-pay for mental health and keeping the job.
I agree. Your pricing however is off. I use Bookfinder.com.
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Thanks, I will look into this.
Second hand sellers don't always want to ship to NZ.
A possible short cut is available. Aside obviously from the many interviews and videos there are intelligent book reviews! This is on his latest book.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/369531675_The_Master's_Theory_of_Everything_A_Review_of_Iain_McGilchrist's_The_Matter_with_Things/link/641fed93315dfb4cceac74b6/download
Thank you Stegiel for looking into this for me.
More than happy. I am a book buyer and book hunter and in my poverty I downloaded more titles than I can read across several platforms. At a point shortly I move the books to the Icloud - maybe. There have been some stories online of Google Drive say deciding a text is not ok. I do at a minimum have to have a good idea of what I have downloaded. I did that after Judith passed with my boxes of books in the closet. Pulled 'em out. Gazed on titles and some now on the shelf others away to the thrift store. I estimate three more boxes from the shelves that refuse to be purchased by buyers on Pango also can go.
Have read it now and I repeat my appreciation of your assistance.
I am thinking if I know anyone who will put the effort into reading it.
Maybe the short attention spans are due to Twitter aka ex twit.
This review, of course, is looking for the God angle but that's fair enough.
William James -On HUman Immortality. By the way a significant influence on McGilchrist.
Human Immortality: Two Supposed Objections to the Doctrine
Every memory and affection of one’s present life is to be preserved, and one shall never in sæcula sæculorum cease to be able to say to himself: “I am the same personal being who in old times upon the earth had those experiences.”
Preface
James answers his critics who claim his thoughts are a pantheistic idea of immortality, not the Christian idea (survival in strictly personal form). He answers that one may conceive the mental world behind the veil in as individualistic a form as one pleases, without any detriment to the general scheme by which the brain is represented as a transmissive organ.
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https://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~jlawler/courses/phi280/assets/documents/Human%20Immortality%20by%20William%20James.pdf
Yes, indeed they speak and, speak of themselves like they don't have much in common with us, the rest of humanity. And maybe they don't.
And their followers are amongst us.
I suppose that the senior members swear an oath of allegiance to get to join the club, like the inner circle Nazis did.
Hard to undo that.
On the road to Damascus a Roman secret police agent found himself undone.
Yes stepping aside from a moral norm, listening to McGhilchrist I see (frame) the trashing of the planet is Left Hemisphere dominance. Psychopathology. Humans are victims from one view, and bacchants from another. Short term gratification is need to get high, not need to reflect. Debauchery is immediate and decadence long term. I posted on Ray's site, slightly facetiously but truthfully, that the cure, the only cure to a world far more dangerous and toxic than we really need to know, is not very costly. I submitted Kazantzakis is the cure, a change of mind is fundamentally the only non toxic solution that is free.
The Saviors of God: Spiritual Exercises, I would like to consider further his idea of hope, which I first encountered in this passage:
We all ascend together, swept up by a mysterious and invisible urge. Where are we going? No one knows. Don’t ask, mount higher! Perhaps we are going nowhere, perhaps there is no one to pay us the rewarding wages of our lives. So much the better! For thus may we conquer the last, the greatest of all temptations—that of Hope.
I remember being devastated the first time I read those lines so many years ago. I had rejected my religious upbringing as a youth, and never regretted my decision, but why couldn’t I still hope that life had meaning, that things matter, that there is ultimate justice? Why was Kazantzakis taking away these hopes?
After all, I had comforted distraught students over the years saying that, although we don’t know that life has meaning, we can still hope that it does. Often these students were distressed by the meaninglessness and absurdity they encountered in existential thinkers like Sartre and Camus, or by the erosion of their religious beliefs after classes in the philosophy of religion. Was I wrong to comfort them with vague hopes?
Kazantzakis thinks rejecting hope is so important that in, The Saviors of God: Spiritual Exercises, it is one of the three duties to be fulfilled in preparation for the spiritual life. The first duty is to bravely accept our cognitive limitations, and the second duty is to accept the heart’s anguish at being unable to find meaning in life. This leads to the third duty:
The moment is ripe: leave the heart and the mind behind you, go forward, take the third step. Free yourself from the simple complacency of the mind that thinks to put all things in order and hopes to subdue phenomena. Free yourself from the terror of the heart that seeks and hopes to find the essence of things. Conquer the last, the greatest temptation of all: Hope. This is the third duty.
Moreover, his epitaph, carved on his tombstone in Greek reads: “I hope for nothing. I fear nothing. I am free.”
Not my words by the way but my sentiments.
Am enjoying McGilchrist.
I'm obviously in good company to not be sure about a lot of things.
The MSM gives people a shortcut to sureness. Repeated messages which can be trotted out.
Quoting *experts* is another shortcut to sureness.
Unless they have expertise. Then one encounters the guide. Zarathusra say, though for McGilchrist I think a mash up of William James and Heideger served as a foundational springboard.
I too enjoy McGilchrist, a great deal really. I have begun the Master and the Emmissary. I am fond of McGilchrist because he is a neuropsychologist and a philsopher who studied English at Oxford and at age 28 after a 7 year Fellowship from Oxford decided to study medicine and neuropsychology. And as he says 12 years after his first book, no one in his field disagrees with his science. Nor do I. (LOL)
I have not much looked into it but the idea seems to be that society is working heavily on the left brain and not seeing the big picture and the consequences of being a small narrow thinker.
I am also led to consider the growing number of autistics, and I don't know but is lack of empathy often a characteristic.
And then the question of empathy in society at large. Wokeism feigns empathy, and here in NZ we had an actress PM who was (in some people's eyes) good at doing empathy.
Since the Pandemic I have put a lot of thought into the English diaspora. And even more into England. Feigning empathy might really be since the days of Shakespeare the way of being. This was creased in to the population by the hot irons of history. In the days of the Bard actors ran the risk of being vagrants. Vagrants-homeless, non-employed, non-residents, could be whipped with lead tipped whips from parish to parish. (Another reason to think the Bard to be a collective of Propagandists for the Queen.)
Not looking left or right but straight ahead eyes on the prize the straight line cutting across the countryside permitted a peculiar Authoritarianism to root itself and become a pestiential weed. Reading the Martiniquean poet/philospher Aimee Cesaire in his book "Discourse on Colonialism" for maybe the fourth time in 2023 I really grasp how this "civilizing" road destroys more than it bridges. Truly this feigning of compassion must end or we all do,.
I have a well off, retired early, friend who has a *Dutch uncle* character, wanting to help guide and teach practical skills to young *foster* children.
I don't want to be the one to tell him of the risks of someone accusing him of something *inappropriate*.
But this is what the actual empathetic are likely to get.
Of course. After Freud guilty until pentient and even then such a loathsome pervert a cure requires 3 $500 sessions for 14 quarters paid by insurance with a quite modest co-pay for mental health and keeping the job.
The left brain hemisphere, it would seem, is more sure of itself.
McGilchrist's "The Master and his Emissary" is $163.
I would rather have a hard copy, as it's easier to flip back and forward to pages, but at that price it would be kindle.
Obviously in vogue as the city library has one copy of the latest edition and a waiting list of eight.
One copy of original edition but that's in some sort of storage.
McGilchrist has a new book now that he is being interviewed about.
I guess that "The Matter with Things" might be the better books to buy, written as they are in the midst of the current crazy.
Yup 😢
Probably the UK sellers do.