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Cairn see my comment and his response. https://stuartbramhall.substack.com/

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Looking for it.

What topic?

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Found it.

The one about the spikes in the blood.

Not going to subscribe nor give a like to that nonsense.

Good for a laugh I suppose.

Feel free to enjoy my comments on Stuart's post.

I might get myself banned?

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With the surname "Betterman" the author might be happy with how he is and not open to a rethink.

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Not surprising, except surprised that it's in The Telegraph.

Actually quite fun that the minister for health and social welfare thinks like this. LOL for sure.

I've been saying for a couple of years that when one reads *Health* to swap it out with *Death*.

I have a MSM reading friend who is just a little stunned by reading The Times (UK) report on this The Telegraph report. The Telegraph is right wing.

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https://clifhigh.substack.com/p/a-zelensky-in-a-g-string

Do you ever read Clif High?

I like his Munchausen by Proxy explanation for why so many are going along with: pandemic, trans, climate crisis.

People get convinced that they have a problem because people who "care " about them say they are suffering and treatment required.

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Off and on 20 years maybe. Ran into him decoding human events with language and simulations for prognostication. Automations absolutely.

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The Daily Clout's quoted paper is reporting damage to be from spike protein.

Don't they know about the graphene oxide?

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I start to think that this is the other great fall back. Increasingly the Resistance is fractured with one team ignoring GO. Insisting Spike. Only talking Spike. Only writing papers giving lectures on Spike. Citing papers on Spike. I have to say pro-virus also appears to dominate discourse despite all evidence. And in the end we trust persecuted doctors with all their baggage and care not for qua truth. Rather meet a GMO DARPA Tiger in the home than break conditioning.

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I'm thinking to tidy up my Substack subscriptions to get rid of the only spike ones. It's one of those things that us mere people reading at home cannot really discover the truth of. Then a lot comes down to the messenger and whom they are in with as to their credibility.

I know my opinions have changed unrecognizably over the past year or so. I've decided not to *believe* anything unless it really makes sense to me. Which means no more DNA, Nuclear bombs, big bang.

And I wonder why others are sticking to their early-on beliefs, why are they not reconsidering?

I don't mind being called a conspiracy theorist, it means having an open mind on the alert for cons.

Still learning...

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I was thinking of Naomi as a mystagogue (from Greek: μυσταγωγός, mystagogos, "person who initiates into mysteries") is a person who initiates others into mystic beliefs, and an educator or person who has knowledge of the sacred mysteries of a belief system. Another word for mystagogue is hierophant.

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I didn't listen to much of her talk but you are to the point with her working on gaining initiates.

Naomi has a strong following for whatever she says, so it's interesting to see how these maybe trends develop.

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I view her as having broad liberal appeal and as a kind of Marianne Williamson.

I am a child of the 70's. Especially now. SF was close to this run down then, when I visited at 15 and up.

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Never heard of her but I see she is a Democrat candidate and supports US military funds to Ukraine.

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Yes indeed for we normals rely on truth. On the other hand, like strict breathing techniques, Lingering Sanity can help in this human life to discern the subtle shades of truth. We start, all objective truth is subjective. Not to say our world lacks truth, but to say we tell time and clocks can be broken. I have to say that much pre-Covid I merely set aside as accident of time and place after Covid became all too real and present and yet Still A Joke. The great jest is our belief in some pure individuality fixed by time but in time detached floating above inexorable fortune, a Cheshire Cat. How do we know what we know except step by step premise? Why default to the entirely mendacious premise bare human life has no meaning? Now some like Naomi Wolfe default to some modified existing religion, a Supernatural force moves man. Free will forgotten.

No virus is clear.

All narratives following untruth.

Consequences incalculable.

, From Latin mystagōgus, from Greek mustagōgos : mustēs, an initiate; see mystery + agōgos, guide, leader (from agein, to lead; see ag- in Indo-European roots).]

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Naomi Wolfe surely is getting cosy with her many gods.

Comfort-seeking behaviour.

What's the word that goes with your derivation last paragraph?

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The rapid development of industry resulted in stellar cognitive changes in

how human beings went about understanding material reality. This was

accompanied by a gradual decline in faith and the separating of the state from

religious institutions. By the beginning of the 19t h century, the myth of humanism

was broken, argued Berdyaev. This led to an abyss opening beneath humanity.

Berdyaev conceptualizes this abyss through linking it to the egress of capitalism

and the marketization of economic life. A profound implication arose from

marketization – for the first time in history, masses of people were necessitated to

sell their labor for wages under specified industrial trades. Goncharov (2016)

explains how Berdyaev assumed that under such a system people would fall away

from faith and God and simply become economic toilers. Increased

industrialization, urbanization, and the decline of feudalism changed the

structure of economics. The relationship that human beings had with society and

politics also transformed. These processes entailed major changes for organized

religion. The authority of leading churches, such as the Catholic or Orthodox

Church, was eventually stripped away and transferred over to the state – this

resulted in a newly found objective totality belonging to statehood.

These dynamics, as one would expect, eventually led to even greater adverse

outcomes, specifically in the rise of the totalitarian state and totalitarian

ideologies – both of which featured common recognition of “the complete

authority of the state and of society” (Berdyaev 1952, 57). This signified an adverse

return to what Berdyaev referred to as an ancient, heathen state of human

consciousness. The revolutions of the 20t h century, such as the 1917 Russian

revolution, were tragic for Berdyaev because those that waged such revolutions

failed to recognize the distinction between the realms of spirituality (the

everlasting) and of Caesar (the transient). This recognitional failure led to the

solidification of both monism and totalitarianism (Berdyaev 1952, 73). Such

outcomes can be observed in the philosophies of Hegel, Marx, Auguste Comte,

and in social orders such as in communist and fascist regimes, as well as in liberal

democracies (Berdyaev 1952, 78). The third period exemplifies how the realm of

Caesar always wishes to subject itself to the whole of humanity in its

universalizing tendency.

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Good point about liars not even countenancing anything that doesn't suit their interests, and when they mix with like mindeds they never have to.

Problem getting anyone around here to resist the lockdowns as they were excited to get to be paid to stay home.

A few seem a bit puzzled now, so the MSM must be encouraging puzzlement.

The clotshotting pharmacies have removed their clotshot flags from the footpath and store frontage. They are doing their evil with less fanfare.

University students are being texted to get shot for monkey pox and 'flu.

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Over here it softened but changed otherwise very little. Signs are up. Ads on TV. Ads on TV for over counter drugs for mild Covid. And a purposely annoying TV ad about Shingles. The citizens slumber until told by MSM to sleep walk.

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Good line" slumber until told by MSM to sleep walk".

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