Freedom gives birth to evil as well as good. Therefore evil does not deny the existence of meaning, but rather confirms it. Freedom is not created, because it is not nature; freedom existed before the world began, it is rooted in immemorial nothingness. God is almighty over being, but not over nothingness, or over freedom. This from Berdyaev-https://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Philosophy/Sui-Generis/Berdyaev/qf.htm.
According to Berdyaev, the actions of a being possessing free will cannot be forseen even by God, since they are entirely free. Berdyaev denies God's omnipotence and omniscience and maintains that He does not create the cosmic entities' will, which springs from the UNGRUND, but merely helps that will to become good; he is led to that conclusion by his conviction that freedom cannot be created and that if it were, God would be responsible for cosmic evil. A theodicy would then be impossible, Berdyaev thinks.
Evil arises when the irrational freedom leads to the violation of the Divine hierarchy of being and to seperation from God owing to the pride of the spirit desiring to put itself in the place of God. This results in disintegration, in material and natural being, and in slavery instead of freedom. But in the last resort, the origin of evil remains the greatest and most inexplicable mystery (AN ESSAY ON ESCHATOLOGICAL METAPHYSICS, 127)
We are now all trapped patterned and controlled by an all powerful tower of babble (babel) in which we now "live". A tower of babble (babel) which is completely indifferent to and impervious to any kind of positive change posited by any and everyone's objections to it however valid.
At present, a dark anti-"culture" of total war, a "culture" of death, is ruling, while the people are engrossed in self-oblivious consumerism. The modern everyman of consumer society is a propagandized individual, participating in a "culture" of illusions and, effectively, self-destructing.
I do believe I understand your point, if I get it correct, that a view of an extraordinarily powerful ruling class overtaking innocent bodies of citizens around the world, and especially in the Western nations, busily going about their praiseworthy, industrious, laudatory activities is cartoonish and lacking in the requisite insight for effective resistance as well as for adaptive, strategic, countering and autonomous action.
The coordinated natures of tyrants and the yielding masses are the two riders on an interactive seesaw. You cannot have one without the other. These two classes are a dire threat to those who strive to be self-governed as individuals and ethnostates. These two riders of the seesaw are the antithesis and enemies of human striving for sanctity first, and second for a deepening of the intellect; exploration of creative action; upbuilding of rational enterprise that respects and protects tradition and identity; subdual of natural dangers and disorders -- not peoples -- without destroying nature; and a devotion to prudence, justice and genuine flourishing instead of hedonism and slavery.
You stated, "This is not a conspiracy, it’s something worse. It’s a kind of ‘logic’ – a form of collective resignation. Conspiracy theorists are wrong. A strong folk will not let itself be captured or crushed by the system by which it is ruled."
Your manner of expressing that point, however, warrants and invites re-evaluation. I think we are agreed that what is occurring is attributable to the combined action of ever-aspiring tyrants and the natural vices of people. The natural vices on the part of the masses relevant to this discussion, I believe, are pride; acedia and apathy; the love of money, luxury, comfort and self-indulgence; and --lastly in this current list -- the proclivity towards sexual immorality.
Those of us refusing to be riders on the seesaw, must redouble or efforts toward sanctity and virtue --- all the virtues.
This reads as if the US is the target - it's global, so yes the US is an important target, to take down early perhaps, but I'm not seeing any country spared.
The US immigration invasion is a hard one to put back in the bottle for sure. On a par with putting the shots back in the vats.
As I joked with Richard yesterday the US is an oligarchical despotism without God. NZ has a Monarchial oligarchical despotic system ordained by God. Both systems represented "freedom."
Christian thought is built into the system no matter how diluted. I think a majority of people polled in a non biased way believe that man is not the Supreme Being anymore than Traffic Court is the proper tribunal for High Crimes,
Yes. One can probe a black box and analyses the outputs. One can then discern whether ones probing indicates that that is the only input or whether there is another input. This is what enables us to detect that there is oligarchic power meddling with things. Thirty years ago, people who detected this were considered on the fringe of the intellectual world. Now, is there any doubt about oligarchs except by the most willfully blind and dissembling?
Likewise, one can detect the actions of the Cosmic Monarch on the black box that produce outputs that do not "add up" given the inputs.
Our era is one which the Russian philosopher Berdyaev describes as the realm of Caesar. The Greek and Roman world did not know the principle of freedom of spirit which arose in Europe after Christianity, their world was totalitarian. For Berdyaev, a Russian Orthodox Gnostic, the realm of Caesar is always at war with the human spirit and the social world we inhabit bends and obeys Caesar in what he describes as a “terrible socio-morphism” where each free spirit decides in their tragic necessity of being dual, man and spirit, how to be in this world.
Does the U.S. truly truly have God-fearing people? A case could be made that the underminers skillfully interjected a false pathway in the moral machinery that immediately grounds all guilt to zero as if it were a stray voltage or a short circuit --- just like the libertines. That pathway is called "once saved, always saved." It converts hope and confidence into an absolute get-out-of-jail-free card. This, I only conjecture, might explain the equivalent outputs of the U.S. and N.Z. One does not have to possess commitment to these theological features to apply this analysis to whatever effect it deserves.
The original plan for education was to create children’s character but that is a different story. In the end for the times we must act--become Buckminster Fuller Verbs
Freedom gives birth to evil as well as good. Therefore evil does not deny the existence of meaning, but rather confirms it. Freedom is not created, because it is not nature; freedom existed before the world began, it is rooted in immemorial nothingness. God is almighty over being, but not over nothingness, or over freedom. This from Berdyaev-https://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Philosophy/Sui-Generis/Berdyaev/qf.htm.
According to Berdyaev, the actions of a being possessing free will cannot be forseen even by God, since they are entirely free. Berdyaev denies God's omnipotence and omniscience and maintains that He does not create the cosmic entities' will, which springs from the UNGRUND, but merely helps that will to become good; he is led to that conclusion by his conviction that freedom cannot be created and that if it were, God would be responsible for cosmic evil. A theodicy would then be impossible, Berdyaev thinks.
Evil arises when the irrational freedom leads to the violation of the Divine hierarchy of being and to seperation from God owing to the pride of the spirit desiring to put itself in the place of God. This results in disintegration, in material and natural being, and in slavery instead of freedom. But in the last resort, the origin of evil remains the greatest and most inexplicable mystery (AN ESSAY ON ESCHATOLOGICAL METAPHYSICS, 127)
Hmmm, I will have to study up on Berdyaev sometime. For now, it does not square with my Thomistic understanding of Christian Metaphysics.
We are now all trapped patterned and controlled by an all powerful tower of babble (babel) in which we now "live". A tower of babble (babel) which is completely indifferent to and impervious to any kind of positive change posited by any and everyone's objections to it however valid.
At present, a dark anti-"culture" of total war, a "culture" of death, is ruling, while the people are engrossed in self-oblivious consumerism. The modern everyman of consumer society is a propagandized individual, participating in a "culture" of illusions and, effectively, self-destructing.
An anti-"culture" which combines the dark scenarios of both Brave New World and 1984. As described in this essay: http://www.truthout.com/articles/2011-a-brave-new-dystopia
Huxley is a bit suspect.
In contrast to others from his mileu, his brother Julian, Bertie, he is breaking through to hard shell to no longer be a chick.
I agree with your comments on death being the in thing.
Humans seem to have a self destruct button.
Kamikaze, martyrs.
The NZ whistle blower offering himself up for sacrifice.
And the cult of sacrificing others.
Scapegoats writ large.
Free will is there. Fear is as well. The race is on,
🤍🙏🏻
I do believe I understand your point, if I get it correct, that a view of an extraordinarily powerful ruling class overtaking innocent bodies of citizens around the world, and especially in the Western nations, busily going about their praiseworthy, industrious, laudatory activities is cartoonish and lacking in the requisite insight for effective resistance as well as for adaptive, strategic, countering and autonomous action.
The coordinated natures of tyrants and the yielding masses are the two riders on an interactive seesaw. You cannot have one without the other. These two classes are a dire threat to those who strive to be self-governed as individuals and ethnostates. These two riders of the seesaw are the antithesis and enemies of human striving for sanctity first, and second for a deepening of the intellect; exploration of creative action; upbuilding of rational enterprise that respects and protects tradition and identity; subdual of natural dangers and disorders -- not peoples -- without destroying nature; and a devotion to prudence, justice and genuine flourishing instead of hedonism and slavery.
You stated, "This is not a conspiracy, it’s something worse. It’s a kind of ‘logic’ – a form of collective resignation. Conspiracy theorists are wrong. A strong folk will not let itself be captured or crushed by the system by which it is ruled."
Your manner of expressing that point, however, warrants and invites re-evaluation. I think we are agreed that what is occurring is attributable to the combined action of ever-aspiring tyrants and the natural vices of people. The natural vices on the part of the masses relevant to this discussion, I believe, are pride; acedia and apathy; the love of money, luxury, comfort and self-indulgence; and --lastly in this current list -- the proclivity towards sexual immorality.
Those of us refusing to be riders on the seesaw, must redouble or efforts toward sanctity and virtue --- all the virtues.
Apropos de rien.
I just saw an attractive male walk past in front of our place.
"He's probably clotshotted" said a voice from nowhere.
Do we have any evidence for a "gene serum".
This reads as if the US is the target - it's global, so yes the US is an important target, to take down early perhaps, but I'm not seeing any country spared.
The US immigration invasion is a hard one to put back in the bottle for sure. On a par with putting the shots back in the vats.
As I joked with Richard yesterday the US is an oligarchical despotism without God. NZ has a Monarchial oligarchical despotic system ordained by God. Both systems represented "freedom."
This God thing.
That's a biggy.
The US has a lot of god-fearing folks.
NZ has hardly any but most of them are in the South Island where Richard hangs out.
Plus some Pacificas in Auckland, which has become an up to date political movement, linking with Maori and mandate protests.
Christian thought is built into the system no matter how diluted. I think a majority of people polled in a non biased way believe that man is not the Supreme Being anymore than Traffic Court is the proper tribunal for High Crimes,
Yes. One can probe a black box and analyses the outputs. One can then discern whether ones probing indicates that that is the only input or whether there is another input. This is what enables us to detect that there is oligarchic power meddling with things. Thirty years ago, people who detected this were considered on the fringe of the intellectual world. Now, is there any doubt about oligarchs except by the most willfully blind and dissembling?
Likewise, one can detect the actions of the Cosmic Monarch on the black box that produce outputs that do not "add up" given the inputs.
Our era is one which the Russian philosopher Berdyaev describes as the realm of Caesar. The Greek and Roman world did not know the principle of freedom of spirit which arose in Europe after Christianity, their world was totalitarian. For Berdyaev, a Russian Orthodox Gnostic, the realm of Caesar is always at war with the human spirit and the social world we inhabit bends and obeys Caesar in what he describes as a “terrible socio-morphism” where each free spirit decides in their tragic necessity of being dual, man and spirit, how to be in this world.
Does the U.S. truly truly have God-fearing people? A case could be made that the underminers skillfully interjected a false pathway in the moral machinery that immediately grounds all guilt to zero as if it were a stray voltage or a short circuit --- just like the libertines. That pathway is called "once saved, always saved." It converts hope and confidence into an absolute get-out-of-jail-free card. This, I only conjecture, might explain the equivalent outputs of the U.S. and N.Z. One does not have to possess commitment to these theological features to apply this analysis to whatever effect it deserves.
Very good joke.
Joke is on us for falling for the freedom thing.
I've been thinking about countries wanting war.
EuropeNATO would be easy prey right now, having used up all their ammo on Ukraine.
But actually there's not much enthusiasm for war.
The US likes to always have a war on simmer.
Why doesn't the US invade the NATO countries.
Is the US out of bullets too.
War makes sense for border disputes, and that can even seem legitimate. The US wars to save democracy. And offering up US young men.
So last century, how is this still a thing.
Dead hand of the past chokes the living.
Another thought.
It doesn't matter if the US military is woke and trans and girly with no ammo.
Because the gamers are enjoying that part.
The original plan for education was to create children’s character but that is a different story. In the end for the times we must act--become Buckminster Fuller Verbs