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JS's avatar

Indeed. Everything is fluid when subject to the appropriate force, governed by the laws of Nature which are at the heart of everything. The results should be predictable to the observant. Theoretically, human thought and behavior, which are at the root of economics and society and relationships, are governed by the same Nature and should be measurable and predictable. If not, it may be proof of the existence of God. In our current state of ignorance, it seems most prudent to assume that those laws do not apply, because our attempts at influence lead to much unpredictable chaos, harm to many, and little valuable knowledge from which to design a new investigation. Just a thought. And climate science does not flow. That science is settled, set in stone for all of eternity.

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Stegiel's avatar

In Islam, there is no concept of the "fall of man" as found in Christianity. According to Islamic eschatology, a false messianic figure called al-Dajjāl will appear before the end of time, but there is no inherent fallen state for humanity due to the actions of Adam and Eve.

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jacquelyn sauriol's avatar

Re flow, re mixing, re building society instead of breaking it down....reminded me of David Byrne's book How Music Works, where the owner of the old CBGB's Bar said that much of the creativity that happened musically at the time around that 'scene' was because the bar owner created a place where folks could hang out, be part of this larger flow. The bar owner kept the prices low so the bands that performed would actually hang out and socialize, listen, before and after their gigs. Flow nurtures.

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Stegiel's avatar

I believe this freedom changed upon popularity of the Club. I dimly recall all that but have not gone to look.

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jacquelyn sauriol's avatar

I think the bar made it into the 1990's but it did close. I hear you, most (75%?) of clubs are quite sterile in the sense of flow.

Thanks also for your comments -some days ago- regarding shedding. This interview, towards end, Zoe mentions this issue generally affirming what you said per her logic, that either it is overblown or that the eveils have an antidote, as they know we are the ants that serve them at often close quarters. best https://geopoliticsandempire.substack.com/p/zowe-smith-covid-was-a-technocratic?publication_id=1743692&post_id=150919694&r=oh7gm&triedRedirect=true

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