Yes Allan See I concur that this degradation runs deep. If you read a bit on Weimar or recall the film Cabaret and extend this like say a cultural virus infecting generation after generation in the West until the spots finally manifest on the body politic as illness you can easily see what Dugin is referencing. And quite interestingly from Italy we hear a similar concern.
Italy and not only Italy, has experienced two days of dreams and nightmares for the victory of Giorgia Meloni. Half Italy has dreamed, the other Italy which includes the upper echelons of society, has suffered a nightmare. And the rest remained half asleep, displaced and bewildered.
Now that we wake up from the tale of the borgatara who became queen, the small and black Calimero who turns out to be the most loved by Italians, it's time to regain consciousness, go back to reality and understand what happened.
Yeah, what happened, what is the message coming from the polls in the end? Italy does not want to end. And she rebelled against the obligation of the ideological pass, the politically correct mask and the surveillance regime of recent years. I will not say that Meloni and her coalition will save Italy, its sovereignty and her civilization or that they will free us from the internal and global cloak, in fact I don't think so, it is too big an undertaking; but I say what happened in the minds and hearts of the Italians who voted for it. They were sick of seeing their country crumbling and retreating, seeing reality raped and freedom trampled on by international and internal oligarchies, their media, the one-way regime.
And they've entrusted a message of redemption to the freshest, fitter, prettier, virgin of power leader. It will be a new affirmation of populism, as you say, it will be a reliance again on those who are new, who have the merit of having no precedents; it will be the consistency of being in opposition and therefore of representing the widespread discontent. But Meloni represented the irruption of the new and the interruption of the compliant. That you will then be able to meet expectations, lead a government up to the challenge and overcome the assaults, pressures, threats and flattery of the establishment unscathed, this is another matter; you know how I think, I don't feed illusions. But that was the intention to vote; she will be childish, unrealistic, but a thousand times more noble and positive than the resentment of those who voted on the left only out of hatred and fear, that is, against the right; or of those who with the vote made personal use and patronizing exchange, as in the worst past and in the worst south.
Never before has the victory been singular as this time: it has the face, the voice, the eyes of Giorgia Meloni. Girl's eyes, I said yesterday. The rest is a side dish. They have lost the Old Aunts: the guardians who rule Italy, the factions, the curias, the domes. Now they will surround Meloni: if they see her weak of her they will massacre her, if they see her strong of her they will pretend to be her friends.
What about the other political leaders? Read with his Pd he lost because he focused only on the fear of the monster, a fascist-Putinian-Orbanian; not a positive program but only terror, "otherwise the ogres will come". It must be said that he also contributed to the defeat of Calenda 's turnaround which seduced and abandoned him, after Letta had broken ties with the grillini. In this regard, it should be noted that Conte's recovery (but the Grillini have still halved the votes) is due to the recovery of street populism, pauperist demagogy but also the abandonment of the alliance with the party-regime, the Democratic Party.
The general notation to be made about the vote is that populism is still an electoral winner. When Salvini is tried, and a change of hands towards Zaia , Fedriga or Giorgetti is hypothesized, one forgets that Salvini has lost consensus precisely because he stopped being the deprecated Salvini, he abandoned populism and sovereignty and bowed to Draghi, to the government with the Democratic Party, then even to vote for Mattarella, following precisely the "moderate" line of his internal antagonists who today should try and replace him.
Beyond the judgment on Draghi, do we want to say that it did not bring good to those who supported him and campaigned in his name? Other than Italy still wanted Draghi, the only opponent voted… Calenda and Renzi did not break through , the Draghian Letta was broken, as did Salvini who supported his government (albeit for respectable reasons); Di Maio sankneo-Draghiano, Berlusconi was saved, also politically passed from Milan to Monza, but still remains decisive with his Forza Italia due. Instead, those who opposed Draghi triumphed, like Meloni, and it went well for those who triggered the crisis to send him home (Conte). Then of course, the elections offered, in addition to the anomaly of a single prime minister, also other negative spectacles: the high abstention, an unprecedented record in politics, devitalized, emptied parties; even the anti-system parties were a flop; and then the voting and the non-voting of the South was depressing. He spies on a serious illness (not because of Meloni, I think).
What happens now? Apart from the fascist cries of danger that will accompany the centenary of the March on Rome , I do not expect great changes, I do not expect revolutions or ruptures, I do not expect second thoughts about NATO and Europe, or even the rehabilitation of fascism. I expect little, I expect a lot of continuity plus a few small changes and some symbolic results, in terms of family, safety and little else.
But I hope that at least one thing will happen: that it is possible in Meloni's Italy to have another point of view, without being considered blind, dangerous or backward as it has been until now. I hope that with a premier on the right the possibility of seeing reality, life, history and culture in another way will improve. In recent years there has been an oppressive climate; if you think otherwise you are condemned to reproach or silence. I do not dream of changes in hegemonies, let alone, I would be satisfied that at least those who think differently are recognized, that there is room for either, that another point of view is not a crime or a regression but simply another way of seeing and facing. the things. For the rest, live Italy and may Our Lady accompany us.
Yes Allan See I concur that this degradation runs deep. If you read a bit on Weimar or recall the film Cabaret and extend this like say a cultural virus infecting generation after generation in the West until the spots finally manifest on the body politic as illness you can easily see what Dugin is referencing. And quite interestingly from Italy we hear a similar concern.
Italy and not only Italy, has experienced two days of dreams and nightmares for the victory of Giorgia Meloni. Half Italy has dreamed, the other Italy which includes the upper echelons of society, has suffered a nightmare. And the rest remained half asleep, displaced and bewildered.
Now that we wake up from the tale of the borgatara who became queen, the small and black Calimero who turns out to be the most loved by Italians, it's time to regain consciousness, go back to reality and understand what happened.
Yeah, what happened, what is the message coming from the polls in the end? Italy does not want to end. And she rebelled against the obligation of the ideological pass, the politically correct mask and the surveillance regime of recent years. I will not say that Meloni and her coalition will save Italy, its sovereignty and her civilization or that they will free us from the internal and global cloak, in fact I don't think so, it is too big an undertaking; but I say what happened in the minds and hearts of the Italians who voted for it. They were sick of seeing their country crumbling and retreating, seeing reality raped and freedom trampled on by international and internal oligarchies, their media, the one-way regime.
And they've entrusted a message of redemption to the freshest, fitter, prettier, virgin of power leader. It will be a new affirmation of populism, as you say, it will be a reliance again on those who are new, who have the merit of having no precedents; it will be the consistency of being in opposition and therefore of representing the widespread discontent. But Meloni represented the irruption of the new and the interruption of the compliant. That you will then be able to meet expectations, lead a government up to the challenge and overcome the assaults, pressures, threats and flattery of the establishment unscathed, this is another matter; you know how I think, I don't feed illusions. But that was the intention to vote; she will be childish, unrealistic, but a thousand times more noble and positive than the resentment of those who voted on the left only out of hatred and fear, that is, against the right; or of those who with the vote made personal use and patronizing exchange, as in the worst past and in the worst south.
Never before has the victory been singular as this time: it has the face, the voice, the eyes of Giorgia Meloni. Girl's eyes, I said yesterday. The rest is a side dish. They have lost the Old Aunts: the guardians who rule Italy, the factions, the curias, the domes. Now they will surround Meloni: if they see her weak of her they will massacre her, if they see her strong of her they will pretend to be her friends.
What about the other political leaders? Read with his Pd he lost because he focused only on the fear of the monster, a fascist-Putinian-Orbanian; not a positive program but only terror, "otherwise the ogres will come". It must be said that he also contributed to the defeat of Calenda 's turnaround which seduced and abandoned him, after Letta had broken ties with the grillini. In this regard, it should be noted that Conte's recovery (but the Grillini have still halved the votes) is due to the recovery of street populism, pauperist demagogy but also the abandonment of the alliance with the party-regime, the Democratic Party.
The general notation to be made about the vote is that populism is still an electoral winner. When Salvini is tried, and a change of hands towards Zaia , Fedriga or Giorgetti is hypothesized, one forgets that Salvini has lost consensus precisely because he stopped being the deprecated Salvini, he abandoned populism and sovereignty and bowed to Draghi, to the government with the Democratic Party, then even to vote for Mattarella, following precisely the "moderate" line of his internal antagonists who today should try and replace him.
Beyond the judgment on Draghi, do we want to say that it did not bring good to those who supported him and campaigned in his name? Other than Italy still wanted Draghi, the only opponent voted… Calenda and Renzi did not break through , the Draghian Letta was broken, as did Salvini who supported his government (albeit for respectable reasons); Di Maio sankneo-Draghiano, Berlusconi was saved, also politically passed from Milan to Monza, but still remains decisive with his Forza Italia due. Instead, those who opposed Draghi triumphed, like Meloni, and it went well for those who triggered the crisis to send him home (Conte). Then of course, the elections offered, in addition to the anomaly of a single prime minister, also other negative spectacles: the high abstention, an unprecedented record in politics, devitalized, emptied parties; even the anti-system parties were a flop; and then the voting and the non-voting of the South was depressing. He spies on a serious illness (not because of Meloni, I think).
What happens now? Apart from the fascist cries of danger that will accompany the centenary of the March on Rome , I do not expect great changes, I do not expect revolutions or ruptures, I do not expect second thoughts about NATO and Europe, or even the rehabilitation of fascism. I expect little, I expect a lot of continuity plus a few small changes and some symbolic results, in terms of family, safety and little else.
But I hope that at least one thing will happen: that it is possible in Meloni's Italy to have another point of view, without being considered blind, dangerous or backward as it has been until now. I hope that with a premier on the right the possibility of seeing reality, life, history and culture in another way will improve. In recent years there has been an oppressive climate; if you think otherwise you are condemned to reproach or silence. I do not dream of changes in hegemonies, let alone, I would be satisfied that at least those who think differently are recognized, that there is room for either, that another point of view is not a crime or a regression but simply another way of seeing and facing. the things. For the rest, live Italy and may Our Lady accompany us.